Matt Shobe: Doing pretty well Dale, thanks for interviewing me! My right foot still hurts a bit from running the Chicago Marathon last weekend, but one can only hope that doesn't slow me down on the keyboard.
Dale King: Matt, tell my readers how and when you got started
marketing on the Internet, including how FeedBurner came about.
Matt Shobe: I joined my first entirely Internet-facing business in
1997 along with some former colleagues from Accenture. It was a small knowledge management software startup in Chicago called DKA. (These colleagues have since become my cohorts in three startups, and counting.) My work has always been on the customer-facing end of the business, from designing user interfaces for working with a web-based product, to writing copy to position that product, to answering customer support inquiries and creating user education materials.
After DKA, the four of us decided to combine our complementary talents and natural ability to work together and turn over new ideas quickly and see if we could make a run at our own company. That one was called Spyonit, and it was a neat web-based alerting service that could tell you when an eBay auction, stock price, or general web page you cared about changed in a way that interested you (among other things). We sold that company and eventually our industry and technical interests evolved into the genesis of FeedBurner.
FeedBurner is a service for publishers (including blogs, podcasts and major commercial publications like USA TODAY, Wired Magazine, and Reuters) who want to measure, manage, and monetize the content they create and distribute via "RSS," or feed syndication. We saw an opportunity to create just such a centralized, managed service in late 2003 and launched in February 2004.
Since then, its evolution has been driven by careful attention to daily publisher feedback, a nose for online content market trends, and a spirit of restless creativity. We have a lot of fun making this stuff work and hearing about how it helps others, but there are always more improvements and enhancements in demand to keep us out of trouble.
Dale King: Some Internet Marketing experts advise newbies to steer clear of certain areas of Internet Marketing, like selling e-books on how to make money, advertising services, SEO services, copywriting, etc., because those niches are deemed to be too competitive. Do you agree with that assessment?
Matt Shobe: I come from a software product design and
usability-oriented background, so my view of marketing isn't as
broadly strategic as it probably should be. Still, I believe that
shying away from a channel because of perceived competitiveness telegraphs a lack of confidence in having an authentic voice. If a
marketer has taken time to segment and really understand their core audience, they should have a position on the best media and messaging needed to reach that audience and no fear exploiting it.
I trust consumers to have fine-tuned B.S. detectors -- at least the ones I most want to convert into customers/fans -- and a marketer should make sure their voice is honest and wisely applied to winning a discerning audience's favor.
Dale King: Well sasid. How is Internet Marketing different now, as opposed to when you first got started online?
Matt Shobe: I've been on the web since the beginning, and the biggest difference is that it, uh, didn't exist then. I remember how novel my first-ever online purchase was in 1995 -- a software buy at outpost.com -- and how woefully technical and complex all aspects of even getting online were then.
Now that virtually all segments of the modern world marketplace have web access, and an entire generation of consumers expects their favorite companies, large and small, to have a presence that satisfies so many possible goals (purchase/research/support/job hunt/investor relations/networking/community/hours and locations/etc), I can't imagine a business that has no reason to consider the web as a keystone to any marketing plan development.
I remember helping a small wholesaler of baby carriages and other
infant furniture accessories establish a web presence around 1998. He had a wonderful industry point of view, bore a jovial personality that came through in all of his correspondence, and had a crystal-clear understanding of his market and business. How I wish easy-to-use blog platforms existed then! A business blog would have served this wholesaler perfectly. He did well enough with simple email referrals, but as I mentioned earlier about authentic voice and appropriate channel, a well-designed blog with some proper search engine tuning could have helped him reach unexpected shores and generated many more leads. Today's web makes this "woulda coulda" scenario an instant
no-brainer because it's so easy to establish a blog and even a simple e-commerce site in short order with minimal resources.
Dale King: How important has goal-setting been to your overall success?
Matt Shobe: For personal development, I've kept general one- to
two-year goals in mind for professional achievement. My daily/weekly efforts should generally support this goal but remain flexible enough to permit inevitable sidetracks and even creative exploration. You need a A Plan, but it probably shouldn't be scripted to the last 15 minutes.
Dale King: How important has reading been to your overall success?
Matt Shobe: Hugely important. Breadth of knowledge is critical, and a good liberal education helps you understand all sides of the issues (but sometimes leads to "analysis paralysis" -- spending too much time weighing alternatives without fixing on a point of view and taking any action). Reading a broad variety of works, both fiction and nonfiction, has the added benefit of considerably expanding your vocabulary; don't ever discount the value of that.
I try to read magazines like The Economist to get around the world in an hour or so, and of course I read a ton of feeds of bloggers, news sources, and websites that I need to keep track of daily. (I wouldn't be much of a FeedBurner founder if I didn't believe in the power of having updates delivered directly to you by feeds.)
Dale King: If you could recommend one book that all Internet marketers should read, what would it be?
Matt Shobe: You'd think after my previous answer, I'd turn on this like a pony league fastball. Whiff! I'm really weak in the marketing
strategy and general read-books-often department lately, so let me offer up some complementary reading: The World is Flat, by Thomas Friedman.
Even if you have read Friedman's column in the New York Times and believe he's overly reliant on pat answers for messy, complex problems, you have to admire his early grasp of the new global reality: anyone can compete with everyone, from virtually anywhere, in today's internetworked marketplaces. It reinforces a belief of mine that real innovation can never be outsourced, just refined by making and learning from mistakes as quickly as possible. Risk-takers are the ones in Friedman's world likeliest to get by in good standing.
Dale King: In your opinion, what technology has changed Internet
Marketing the most over the last 5 years?
Matt Shobe: Again, I'd pretty much blow it if I didn't point out
feeds. They help connect bloggers, podcasters, and commercial
publishers with a regular audience that finds their voice a necessary signal chosen from the noise of wider Internet. Feed subscribers are your base, your core constituency, a group who may both violently agree and disagree with your opinion. If you are marketing to them, it's in your best interest to understand them and treat them differently than other channels.
Dale King: What new technology do you see changing Internet Marketing over the next 5 years?
Matt Shobe: The ability for previously disconnected web services to hook together in new and interesting ways. People are using Google Maps to bring geographic data into business problem solving; others use del.icio.us, Digg, and other social media services to make sure their content spreads far and wide, beyond just their established subscribers. Other "widget" makers, FeedBurner included, make it possible to put your own content directly on other people's sites, and even have the widgets auto-update over time. (And of course, feeds help make this all possible.)
The more that individuals can take bits and pieces of content and
technology, and reuse them to serve their own purposes with a minimum of technical fuss, the more everyone benefits.
Dale King: What person has influenced you the most in your lifetime, and how?
Matt Shobe: My parents get a lifetime nod in this category because they raised me to think critically, to deal honestly, and to act decisively. I must owe my curiosity and admiration for creativity in all things to them more than anyone. However, a high school teacher, Mr. Reilly, is probably my biggest outside influence. He challenged those of us in his English and Drama classes to take every worthwhile risk we could, and I can't say I'd be an entrepreneur today (or have played an Indian royal in our 1988 production of The Mystery of Edwin Drood) without his leadership during those formative teen years.
Dale King: If you could give my readers one piece of advice, what would it be?
Matt Shobe: Find and surround yourself with smart people you like and who complement your strengths, and good things will follow. I think this holds true whether you're just starting out in an internship or summer job, an entrepreneur with a few partners, or a senior executive of a major corporation.
Dale King: Excellent advice. Thank you very much, Matt . I appreciate you taking the time to do this interview.
Matt Shobe: You're very welcome, Dale! It was my pleasure.
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